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		<title>Will Hampshire County Council ban Wind Turbines on their land?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Winchester Action on Climate Change (WinACC), Friends of the Earth &#38; others are lobbying Hampshire County Council (HCC) concerning their Wind Turbine Policy on whether to restrict the use of HCC land for large wind turbine developments. The economics and argments for wind turbines are being pursued by WinACC and FOE. What we are concerned [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winchester Action on Climate Change (WinACC), Friends of the Earth &amp; others are lobbying Hampshire County Council (HCC) concerning their Wind Turbine Policy on whether to restrict the use of HCC land for large wind turbine developments.</p>
<p>The economics and argments for wind turbines are being pursued by WinACC and FOE.</p>
<p>What we are concerned with here is HCC&#8217;s &#8220;Leading by Example&#8221; approach to their Energy Strategy (found <a title="HCC Energy Strategy" href="http://www3.hants.gov.uk/climatechange/environment-climate_change-energy_strategy.htm" target="_blank">here</a>).</p>
<p>Providing the location for wind turbines are placed in an appropriate location I am assuming that the economics stand up &#8211; this assumption is subject to WinACC&#8217;s detailed investigation into the economics and carbon savings wind turbines bring to the energy mix.</p>
<p>However, there <strong><em>could</em></strong> be other factors that reduce or even negate the basic wind turbine economics making the installation of wind turbines, such as negative impact to visiting holiday makers i.e. an impact to the Travel industry due to a perceived &#8221; &#8230; adverse visual and amenity impact on Hampshire&#8217;s outstanding and high quality landscapes and countryside, &#8230;&#8221;.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but put aside for one moment the arguments for and against the &#8220;visual and amenity impact&#8221;.</p>
<p>If HCC reject a proposal to install Wind turbines (or any renewable) on their land, <em><strong>what should happen next?</strong></em></p>
<p>Quite simply, HCC should work with the proposer or other interested parties to find an alternative solution the achieves the same cost benefits without the perceived economic downside. (We assume this is quantifiable).</p>
<p>A &#8220;NOT ON MY BACKYARD&#8221; approach is not leadership and sets a poor example. A positive leadership attitude is to proactively find alternative solutions to achieve similar benefits without the downsides.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">We call upon HCC to update and declare this &#8220;proactive&#8221; approach to issues of this kind in their Energy Strategy Document.</span></strong></p>
<h1> Letter Exchange</h1>
<p>Letter 1 &#8211; see <a title="Letter 1 to HCC" href="http://www.greenhomediary.co.uk/letter-1-to-hampshire-county-councils-policy-on-wind-turbines/" target="_blank">here.</a>   HCC Response <a title="Response to Letter 1 from Hampshire County Council concerning Wind Turbines" href="http://www.greenhomediary.co.uk/response-to-letter-1-for-hampshire-county-council-concerning-wind-turbines/" target="_blank">here</a></p>
<p>Letter 2 &#8211; see <a title="Letter 2 to Hampshire County Council – it didn’t answer my question" href="http://www.greenhomediary.co.uk/letter-2-to-hampshire-county-council-it-didnt-answer-my-question/" target="_blank">here</a>.  HCC Response <a title="Response to Letter 2 from Hampshire County Council concerning Wind Turbines" href="http://www.greenhomediary.co.uk/response-to-letter-2-from-hampshire-county-council-concerning-wind-turbines/" target="_blank">here</a></p>
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		<title>Response to Letter 2 from Hampshire County Council concerning Wind Turbines</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Mr Veck Thank you for your email of 6 November, which has been passed to me by Cllr Kendal for a response. I can assure you that the County Council does take the issues of energy and climate change seriously. It has recently agreed a Energy Strategy which provides an appropriate local response to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Veck</p>
<p>Thank you for your email of 6 November, which has been passed to me by Cllr Kendal for a response.</p>
<p>I can assure you that the County Council does take the issues of energy and climate change seriously. It has recently agreed a Energy Strategy which provides an appropriate local response to addressing these issues and provides a framework for a programme of projects appropriate for the Hampshire context.</p>
<p>There are a range of views on the costs and impacts of renewable generation, including onshore wind power and the Council has to balance those issues with its responsibilities as a land owner and other priorities. In reaching that balance, the Council must also consider the relative efficiency and impact of the current available renewable technologies.</p>
<p>With regards to your own energy costs, the County Council has been proactively responding to the challenges of energy costs, security and climate change for some time.</p>
<p>One focus is the theme of community energy reduction. The County Council is a lead partner in the Insulate Hampshire project, with a forecast 17,000 insulation measures installed in Hampshire residences by the end of March 2013. We are currently looking at how this work can be supplemented by other community measures such as collective switching which are considered more appropriate in Hampshire at the present time.</p>
<p>Yours sincerely</p>
<p>Frances Martin<br />
Assistant Director Waste, Planning and Environment</p>
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		<title>Letter 2 to Hampshire County Council &#8211; it didn&#8217;t answer my question</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Cllr Kendal Thank you for your response but it did not answer the specific question so let me be more precise:- Situation: HCC refuse to lease HCC owned land to an Energy Suppler that wishes to install large wind turbines on the basis of this new policy. Assumption: HCC are committed to meeting Legally [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Cllr Kendal</p>
<p>Thank you for your response but it did not answer the specific question so let me be more precise:-</p>
<p>Situation:</p>
<p>HCC refuse to lease HCC owned land to an Energy Suppler that wishes to install large wind turbines on the basis of this new policy.</p>
<p>Assumption:</p>
<p>HCC are committed to meeting Legally Binding CO2 / Energy reduction targets.</p>
<p>Expected Response:</p>
<ol>
<li>HCC is <em>proactive</em> with finding an alternative solution.</li>
<li>I expect HCC to work with the Energy Supplier to find an alternative solution that meets (or is better than) the cost benefits associated with the energy supplier’s Wind Turbine solution.</li>
</ol>
<p>As our elected members, I find it unacceptable for you to abdicate responsibility for the legally binding targets – saying NO is not good enough. I suggest if HCC does abdicate responsibility, there could be cause to pursue legal compensation as a result of the potential increase in energy bills. Just to spell this out: I am not prepared to take further increases in my energy bills because HCC have not collaborated with the energy supplier to find alternative solutions. It is simply not good enough to say “not on my back yard”.</p>
<p>Please confirm (simply YES or NO) to the expectation stated above.</p>
<p>Yours sincerely</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Rob Veck</p>
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		<title>Response to Letter 1 from Hampshire County Council concerning Wind Turbines</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Mr Veck Thank you for your comments on the decision report entitled, ‘Policy on large wind turbines and wind farms on County Council Land’. The decision on whether to adopt a policy to restrict the use Hampshire County Council&#8217;s own land for large wind turbine developments will be made by the Leader of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Veck</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments on the decision report entitled, ‘Policy on large wind turbines and wind farms on County Council Land’. The decision on whether to adopt a policy to restrict the use Hampshire County Council&#8217;s own land for large wind turbine developments will be made by the Leader of the County Council as Executive Member for Policy and Resources.</p>
<p>The policy is being considered to provide clear guidance for scheme promoters, and in recognition of the often conflicting objectives between the benefits of wind power in providing clean renewable energy, when the wind blows, and the adverse visual and amenity impact on Hampshire’s outstanding and high quality landscapes and countryside, which are an important economic asset in themselves, and a key aspect of the character of Hampshire</p>
<p>This paper only addresses large wind turbines and wind farms on the County Council’s own land and is not looking to restrict small scale or domestic installations. The County Council has no jurisdiction on the latter and it would therefore not be appropriate for it to comment.</p>
<p>We are completely signed up to the benefits of low carbon energy, but believe that at present large scale wind turbines on our land do not provide a sufficient  benefit to justify the loss of some of Hampshire’s most prized undeveloped countryside.  We recognise however that  wind turbine technology will develop, and the financial regimes that apply may also change, therefore we will keep the position under close scrutiny.</p>
<p>I would also like to take this opportunity to reassure you that the County Council takes the energy and climate change agenda very seriously. The County Council recently approved an Energy Strategy and we agreed to explore a range of options to ensure that Hampshire has future access to sustainable and secure energy sources. On shore wind power is not the only source of low carbon energy.</p>
<p>I can assure you that the County Council will continue to assess future opportunities under this changing agenda.</p>
<p>Yours sincerely</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Councillor Melville Kendal</p>
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		<title>Letter 1 to Hampshire County Council&#8217;s Policy on Wind Turbines</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Sir Re: HCC Policy on Wind Turbines Before raising issues on the recent publicity on the above subject, I commend HCC on their Hampshire Insulate project. This is good news which has not been widely published and demonstrates commitment to CO2 reductions. No doubt you will have received comments and feedback regarding the CO2 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sir<br />
Re: HCC Policy on Wind Turbines<br />
Before raising issues on the recent publicity on the above subject, I commend HCC on their<br />
Hampshire Insulate project. This is good news which has not been widely published and<br />
demonstrates commitment to CO2 reductions.</p>
<p>No doubt you will have received comments and feedback regarding the CO2 issues associated with the non-provision of Wind Turbines on HCC land. This is all very obvious, but the key Energy Security risks to be taken into account for the HCC Energy Policy (probably needing update) revolved around the following:-</p>
<ul>
<li>By 2015, a significant proportion of coal fired power stations will be decommissioned (as required by EU legislation), which, according to a recent Ofgem report will increase the risk of power failures / brown outs.</li>
<li>Nuclear power supply is unlike to be in place until the next decade.</li>
<li>An unquantifiable risk (at present) is the take up of electric cars. According to well respected academics at Reading and Southampton University, this could have a significant impact of grid infrastructure and supply. One charge uses 26 units for a range of 120 miles (6000+miles per year).  This represents 33% increase on electricity usage per household (assuming an average house uses 4000 units per year). A lot will depend on the market take up (which is supported by a government subsidy of £5000 at present1). I suggest the estimates for future demand may be under estimated.</li>
<li>As a result, the UK will be more dependent on energy imports, and I suggest that energy prices will increase significantly. The UK will be held to ransom.</li>
</ul>
<p>If the HCC are approached by external parties (such as energy suppliers) asking to lease land for the provision of wind turbines, I am assuming HCC policy will simply reject the request. Given the risks above, I hope you would agree that the HCC has a duty of care to its residents and businesses to seek alternative solutions that have the same cost benefits (or better).</p>
<p>When the cost benefits are not favourable, this could potentially become a vote looser:-</p>
<ol>
<li>The alternative solution is more expensive resulting in a proportionally more expensive energy bill.</li>
<li>No alternative solution is provided resulting in a significant increase in energy bills.</li>
</ol>
<p>#1 Is the price that we collectively pay to keep a beautiful countryside (although I do hope you<br />
support the campaign to remove pylons from the countryside).</p>
<p>#2 translates to “Conservative Policy supports significant increases in Energy Bills”.</p>
<p>I do not think it is responsible for the HCC to simply say NO, since it has a commitment to meet legal CO2 reduction targets. What I do expect is the HCC to take responsibility to work with the requestor to provide an alternative solution that provides the same (or near) cost benefits. I look forward to a statement from HCC to this effect.<br />
Yours sincerely<br />
Rob Veck<br />
Superhome owner meeting 80% reduction in CO2 emissions.</p>
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		<title>SuperHome Open Day Free Event 24th March 1-4pm</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Colden Common’s very own eco home is opening its doors to the public with guided tours between       1 and 4pm on Saturday 24th March. This is your chance to get close to sustainable technologies and explore ways to cut your energy bills, generate your own energy and increase your [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Colden Common’s </strong>very own eco home is opening its doors to the public with guided tours between       <strong>1 and 4pm</strong> on <strong>Saturday 24<sup>th</sup> March</strong>. This is your chance to get close to sustainable technologies and explore ways to <strong>cut your energy bills</strong>, <strong>generate your own energy </strong>and <strong>increase your home comfort</strong>.</p>
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<p>Our property, a 1979 detached house, has been refurbished with comfort, energy saving and the environment in mind. As a result its carbon footprint has been cut by 80% making it a <strong>SuperHome</strong>. As part of a network of over 100 SuperHomes, we volunteer our time to share both the benefits and challenges of making an old home energy efficient. Don’t expect a sales pitch (this is a charity initiative), but do bear in mind that enthusiasm can be infectious. We hope you’ll join us. Please see the Open Day information below and browse the website to find out more about SuperHomes.</p>
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<p>Rob and Sue Veck</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greenhomediary.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Superhome03.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-633 alignleft" title="Superhome03" src="http://www.greenhomediary.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Superhome03.jpg" alt="" width="281" height="33" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.greenhomediary.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Superhome06.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-636 alignleft" title="Superhome06" src="http://www.greenhomediary.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Superhome06.jpg" alt="" width="194" height="257" /></a><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Event detail:-</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Your Hosts:</span> Rob and Sue Veck 01962 714177</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Address:</span> 8 Piping Close, Colden Common, Winchester SO21 1UP</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Tours:</span> Sat 24 Mar: 1pm to 4pm. These free tours last between 30 – 45 mins.</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Booking</span>: No advance booking required &#8211; just arrive in time for a tour</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Directions:</span> Visit www.maps.google.co.uk <a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Colden+Common+SO211UP&amp;hl=en&amp;sll=53.800651,-4.064941&amp;sspn=22.824428,67.631836&amp;oq=so211up&amp;hnear=Colden+Common+SO21+1UP,+United+Kingdom&amp;t=m&amp;z=16">here</a>. Please phone well in advance if unsure and look out for balloons or banner on arrival</p>
<p>Parking: Parking on Piping Rd</p>
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<p>See Also: <a href="http://www.greeningcoldencommon.org.uk/">www.greeningcoldencommon.org.uk</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Introduction This document is the response from Rob Veck, GreenHomeDiary.com, professional Project Manager, and a Superhome owner that has achieved an 80% reduction on household emissions to meet the Kyoto target. This could not have been achieved without the installation of PV and Solar Hot water. A copy of this document has been sent to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Introduction</h1>
<p>This document is the response from Rob Veck, GreenHomeDiary.com, professional Project Manager, and a Superhome owner that has achieved an 80% reduction on household emissions to meet the Kyoto target. This could not have been achieved without the installation of PV and Solar Hot water.</p>
<p>A copy of this document has been sent to Winchester Action on Climate Change for their consideration, amendment and inclusion of their comments.</p>
<h2>Executive Summary</h2>
<p>We should be aiming:-</p>
<ul class="unIndentedList">
<li> To encourage capital &amp; manufacturing cost reductions to make PV more affordable for a greater proportion of householders / businesses.</li>
<li> To generate Green Jobs.</li>
<li> At an equitable distribution of FIT.</li>
<li> Ultimately achieve parity with power generated for the grid.</li>
<li> To contribute towards government carbon target.</li>
<li> Make best use of the FiT funds.</li>
</ul>
<p>This could be achieved by:-</p>
<ul class="unIndentedList">
<li> A capped and tiered FIT that is linked to capital price performance to ensure a good ROI of 5% to 8% and 10 to 12 year payback period.</li>
<li> Lowering the cap on a regular (quarterly?) basis to &#8220;encourage&#8221; reductions in capital and manufacturing costs.</li>
</ul>
<p>A capped and tiered FiT would also help sustain the funds for a longer period, and contribute towards the 10% saving required by 2015.</p>
<p>We assert that the tariff for multi-installation should be <em>increased</em> for non-profit community based schemes that enable community members (who are unable to install PV) to invest in their community scheme to the benefit of other community members and fuel poverty.</p>
<p>We are concerned about the impact of the sudden change to the feed-in-tariff and previous  changes &amp; delays (e.g Renewable Heat Incentive) on the future credibility of the Green Deal putting at risk the adoption by consumers, and participation by businesses. This change appears to be large without taking into consideration the impact on the market, and specifically jobs &#8211; there is no business assessment of either of these critical points in the draft impact document.  The date for the lower tariff before the closure date for this consultation lowers the credibility of the overall process.</p>
<h1>Responses</h1>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong>1 </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top">Do you agree   or disagree with the proposed new tariffs for solar PV? Give reasons to   support your answer.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong> </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top"><strong>Disagree &#8211; in parts.</strong><strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>Evidence   #1:</strong></p>
<p>Discussions   with PV installers and local groups indicate customers would not proceed with   the amended tariff rates. Installers predict a collapse of the market which   would have an impact on jobs and the industry in general.</p>
<p>However, the   situation is not as clear as it could be. Panel prices have dropped, and the   FIT mechanism is encouraging profiteering at the expense of the consumer and   detriment of bleeding dry the monies set aside for the FIT.</p>
<p><strong>Evidence #2:</strong></p>
<p>The impact   to jobs is happing at a national level &#8211; see Carillion takes £20m hit on FITs   lay-offs. However, this may be more to the economic climate as compared to   the effect of the FIT.</p>
<p><strong>Evidence   #3:</strong></p>
<p>Page 3 of   document 3364 quotes &#8220;5% for well located installations&#8221; for the intended ROI   for PV &#8211; however, the launch of FITs quoted 5 -8% and has been well establish   as such since April 2010. Additionally the Minister has also quoted 5 to 8%   criteria. The document is not as transparent as it should be on this point.</p>
<p><strong>PROPOSAL</strong></p>
<p>An   alternative mechanism for providing an equitable return on investment that   meets the Minister&#8217;s criteria &amp; market expectations can be achieved by   capping the FiT to a specific capital cost / performance price point, reducing   the FiT as the Capital cost / performance reduces, and reducing the cap on a regular   (quarterly?) basis. This achieves the vision outlined above :-</p>
<p>1.       More inefficient / costly panels   will have a lower ROI and longer payback period. This encourages customers to   look for better cost performance panels, which in combination of a regularly   reduced price performance cap, will apply market pressure to encourage   manufacturers to reduce costs and invest in improvements to increase panel   efficiency.</p>
<p>The issue about the lack of research was raised by George Monbiot   &#8211; he suggested that the monies provided for the FiT could have been better   spent through research to improve the efficiency of panels. Such improvements   are slow in coming (PVT for example has a much higher efficiency rate as a   result of the water cooling technology incorporated into the panels.) In the author&#8217;s   opinion, a gradual reduction of the FiT linked to cost performance softens   the impact on the market and, with sufficient communication from the government,   should send a message to manufactures that cost reductions are required.</p>
<p>2.       Tiered FiT based on capital price   performance provides a more equitable distribution of FiT monies which is   more socially acceptable and &#8220;better value for money&#8221; i.e. cheaper panels generating the   same amount of power should still only result in a 5 to 8% ROI and 10 to 12   year payback. This avoids accusations of a system that encourages   profiteering and takes into account dynamic market changes.</p>
<p>Such an approach reduces the risk of exhausting FiT funding   earlier than expected.</p>
<p>3.       Additionally, tiered FiT as   previous described encourages consumers to shop for lower priced systems   (taking into account reliability and long term performance), and aids competition   encouraging manufacturers to achieve better price performance. (note, panels   from China benefit from their fixed exchange rate &#8211; no easy answer to that   one, unfortunately)</p>
<p>4.       Capping the FiT to a specific   capital price performance point would require installers to be more   transparent about their pricing. Prices above the Capped FiT would not   achieve the ROI and Payback period. We have already seen evidence of   customers being ripped off with panels priced significantly higher than the real   price.  Better transparency should help   reduce excessive profiteering from cowboy installers.</p>
<p>5.       The consultation document raises   the issue of &#8220;value for money&#8221; which is assumed to be the additional levy applied to   householder bills to support the FiT. In order to test &#8220;value for money&#8221; we have contacted a local   electricity supplier, Utilita (and one query outstanding from British Gas).   Their calculation resulted in £0.72p ex Vat per customer per year which is   excellent value for money.</p>
<p>A detailed description of the calculation used   for a tiered approach to FiT is in appendix A.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong>2 </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top">Do you agree   or disagree with the proposal of applying the new tariffs to all new solar PV   installations with an eligibility date that is on or after a reference date   that comes before the legal implementation of those tariffs? Give reasons to   support your answer.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong> </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top"><strong>Disagree.</strong><strong></strong></p>
<p>This impacts   customers who have paid a deposit, and installers where the deposit has been   used as a down payment to secure the capital equipment. This is a high risk   that this deposit is non-refundable in these circumstances even through the   original assessment was based on current FiT payments. It may also impact the   installer who may have ordered and paid for equipment up front.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong>3 </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top">Do you agree   or disagree with the proposed reference date of 12 December 2011? Give   reasons to support your answer.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong> </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top"><strong>Disagree</strong><strong></strong></p>
<p>Proposals   and agreements that have been based a reference date of April 2012 &#8211; the   original date for changing the FiT, may force contract issues.</p>
<p>A date   earlier than the close date for the consultation brings into question the   credibility of the consultation process.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong>4 </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top">Do you agree   or disagree with the proposal to introduce new multi-installation tariff   rates for all new solar PV installations that meet the definition set out   above and have an eligibility date of on or after 1 April 2012? Give reasons   to support your answer.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong> </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top"><strong>Disagree </strong><strong>(and agree &#8211; see below)</strong><strong></strong></p>
<p>If the policy is to <em>only</em> attract householders, then the   tiered scheme as described in #1 would need to be lowered for   multi-installations.</p>
<p>HOWEVER this then excludes the   possibility of a <strong>Non Profit</strong> <strong>Community Interest Company</strong> providing   an <strong>investment vehicle</strong> for <strong>community members</strong> that are unable to   install PV on their property. i.e. A CIC that raises funds from community   members could install PV on households that are appropriately orientated and also   suffering from fuel poverty. The benefits of a community based scheme of this   type are:-</p>
<ul class="unIndentedList">
<li> Fuel poverty   households save on their electricity bills.</li>
</ul>
<ul class="unIndentedList">
<li> Other community   members unable to install PV receive a return on their investment which also   help other community members.</li>
</ul>
<ul class="unIndentedList">
<li> The CIC   receives a small income for managing the scheme and profits can be recycled   into other schemes.</li>
</ul>
<p>We think   community based schemes encouraging householders, and non-profit   organisations <strong>should be</strong> <strong>excluded from the multi-installation   tariff</strong> rates. In fact, to encourage schemes of this type (where economies   of scale can be achieved through bulk buying), <strong>the graduated tariff as described in appendix A should be increased</strong> to obtain a higher than 7.6% return on investment.</p>
<p>An additional   requirement of a community based scheme would require investors to sign up to   a EPC C rating..</p>
<p><strong>Agree</strong></p>
<p>For schemes that are not community based we agree with   this proposal.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong>5 </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top">Do you agree   or disagree with the proposed multi-installation tariff rates? Give reasons   to support your answer.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong> </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top">See #4</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong>6 </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top">Do you agree   or disagree with the proposal that for solar PV attached to a building,   eligibility for the standard tariffs proposed in chapter 2 should be   contingent on a minimum energy efficiency requirement being met? Do you have   views on whether such a requirement should apply in relation to all buildings   or just to dwellings or non-domestic buildings? Give reasons to support your   answer.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong> </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top"><strong>Conditionally Agree</strong><strong></strong></p>
<p>A full   assessment should be done (as required by the Green Deal, which should   include all measures needed to meet the 80% 2050 target) and a subset of   measures identified from the assessment such that a minimum energy efficiency   level is met <em>and</em> does not include the energy saved from PV. Addition   of PV then exceeds the minimum applied to building.</p>
<p>This should   be applied to dwellings and non-domestic buildings &#8211; we need to meet the UK   statutory carbon targets.  However, there are exceptions such as farm   buildings where measures may not be applicable, in which case, another   building should be identified upon which measures can be applied and   subsequently implemented.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong>7 </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top">Which of our   two lead options for the energy efficiency requirement &#8211; requiring a building   to achieve a specified EPC rating, or requiring the installation of all   measures that are identified on an EPC as potentially financeable under the   Green Deal &#8211; do you prefer for (1) dwellings, and (2) non-domestic buildings?   Give reasons to support your answer.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong> </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top"><strong>Preference</strong><strong></strong></p>
<p>A full   assessment should be done (as required by the Green Deal, which should   include all measures needed to meet the 80% 2050 target), and those measures   identified &amp; potentially financeable under the Green Deal to be   implemented within 1 year from the installation of the PV, <strong>UNLESS </strong>it makes sense to install some   of the measures before the PV is installed. In this case, the customer may   need to take out a loan. If these measures are installed before the Green   Deal, then the customer should have the option of subsequently financing them   from the Green Deal and pay off the loan used to implement the early changes.</p>
<p>Applicable   to both dwellings and non-domestic buildings with exceptions (see 6).</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong>8 </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top">Under the   first option for the energy efficiency requirement, do you agree or disagree   with the proposal that the EPC rating required to be achieved should be level   C or above? Give reasons to support your answer.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong> </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top"><strong>DO NOT KNOW</strong><strong></strong></p>
<p>Will   a level C achieve our carbon targets? Someone more knowledgeable needs to   determine the correct level required in order to meet UK&#8217;s legal binding   targets and long term 2050 target. I doubt a level C will meet those targets   (assuming good behaviour change).</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong>9 </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top">Do you agree   or disagree with the proposal that, for a transitional period only, all solar   PV installations attached to a building should initially qualify for the   standard tariff, and their continued eligibility for that tariff should be   conditional on the building to which the PV installation is attached   achieving the energy efficiency requirement within a specified period? Give   reasons to support your answer.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong> </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top"><strong>Agree</strong><strong></strong></p>
<p>PV   installations should be conditional on energy efficiency changes within a   given period.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong>10 </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top">Do you agree   or disagree that this transitional arrangement should apply to installations   with an eligibility date on or before 31 March 2013, and that the specified   period should be 12 months from the installation&#8217;s eligibility date? Give   reasons to support your answer.</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong> </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top"><strong>Agree</strong><strong></strong></td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong>11 </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top">Can you   identify any other issues, besides those discussed in this chapter, in   relation to the implementation of an energy efficiency requirement for (1)   dwellings, and (2) non-domestic buildings?</td>
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<td width="19" valign="top"><strong> </strong></td>
<td width="648" valign="top"><strong>TRACK RECORD</strong><strong></strong></p>
<p>Trust is a   difficult thing to build and easily lost. Events such as Hips, the revised   tariff on &gt;50KW PV systems, and now this potentially puts the credibility   of RHI and the Green Deal at risk.</td>
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<h1>APPENDIX A</h1>
<h2>Solar PV Payback Calculation</h2>
<p>The diagram above shows the possible return on a £11,750 installation with estimated output of 3434 kWh per year. The calculation takes into account the diminishing efficiency of the array (see Solar PV Payback Calculations). This starting point is based on a recently installed system.</p>
<p>The table below shows estimates as to what the FiT should be in order to 7.6% return. The payback period ranges between 13.85 to 10 years.</p>
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<li> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Base Case</strong></span> &#8211; the (unlikely) situation where there is no inflation, no energy costs inflation, and 50% of energy produced is exported.</li>
<li> <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>Expected Case</strong></span> &#8211; over 25 years, the situation where inflation is assumed to be 3% and energy costs will continue to rise at 4%.</li>
<li> <span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Extreme Case</strong></span> &#8211; over 25 years, the situation where inflation is assumed to be 4% and energy costs will continue to rise by 8.5%.</li>
<li> Net Present Value &#8211; assumes that an equivalent investment (say, in a savings account) is 3% which equates to 2.4% after 20% tax.</li>
</ul>
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<td width="43" valign="top"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong> </strong></span></td>
<td colspan="4" width="219" valign="top"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>BASE CASE</strong></span></td>
<td colspan="2" width="142" valign="top"><span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>EXPECT CASE</strong></span></td>
<td colspan="2" width="123" valign="top"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>EXTREME CASE</strong></span></td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>Capital Cost</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">Fit</td>
<td width="50" valign="top">1<sup>st</sup> Year   Return</td>
<td width="48" valign="top">20% Tax payer</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">NPV</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">Payback Period (years)</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">NPV</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">Payback Period (years)</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">NPV</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">Payback Period (years)</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£11750</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">21.00</td>
<td rowspan="24" width="50" valign="top">
<p>7.60%</td>
<td rowspan="24" width="48" valign="top">
<p>9.50%</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£3,344</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.85</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£10,187</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.89</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£16,760</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.50</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£11500</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">20.45</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£3,271</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.85</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£  9,990</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.44</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£16,507</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.48</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£11250</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">19.90</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£3,198</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.85</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£    9,793</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.43</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£16,255</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.47</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£11000</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">19.35</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£3,126</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.85</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£  9,596</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.43</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£16,003</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.46</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£10750</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">18.79</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£3,047</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.86</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£    9,391</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.43</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£15,742</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.45</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£10500</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">18.24</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,975</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.86</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£  9,194</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.42</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£15,490</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.43</td>
</tr>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£10250</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">17.69</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,902</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.86</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£    8,998</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.41</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£15,238</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.42</td>
</tr>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£10000</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">17.13</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,824</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.86</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£  8,792</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.41</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£14,976</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.40</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£9750</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">16.58</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,751</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.86</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£    8,595</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.40</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£14,724</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.39</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£9500</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">16.03</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,679</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.86</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£  8,399</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.40</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£14,472</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.37</td>
</tr>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£9250</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">15.47</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,600</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.87</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£    8,193</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.39</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£14,211</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.36</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£9000</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">14.92</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,528</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.87</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£  7,996</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.39</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£13.959</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.34</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£8750</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">14.36</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,449</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.88</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£    7,791</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.38</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£13,698</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.32</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£8500</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">13.81</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,377</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.88</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£  7,594</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.37</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£13,446</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.30</td>
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<tr>
<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£8250</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">13.26</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,304</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.88</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£    7,398</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.37</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£13,193</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.28</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£8000</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">12.71</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,232</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.88</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£  7,201</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.36</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£12,941</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.26</td>
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<tr>
<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£7750</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">12.15</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,153</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.89</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£    6,995</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.35</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£12,680</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.24</td>
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<tr>
<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£7500</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">11.60</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,081</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.89</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£  6,799</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.34</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£12,428</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.21</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£7250</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">11.04</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£2,002</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.90</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£    6,593</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.34</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£12,167</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.19</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£7000</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">10.49</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£1,930</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.90</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£  6,397</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.32</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£11,915</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.16</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£6750</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">9.94</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£1,857</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.91</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£    6,200</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.31</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£11,662</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.13</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£6500</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">9.39</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£1,785</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.91</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£  6,003</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.30</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£11,410</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.10</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£6250</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">8.83</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£1,706</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.92</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£    5,798</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.29</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£11,149</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.07</td>
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<td width="57" valign="top"><strong>£6000</strong></td>
<td width="43" valign="top">8.28</td>
<td width="55" valign="top">£1,634</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">13.92</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">£  5,601</td>
<td width="76" valign="top">11.27</td>
<td width="57" valign="top">£10,897</td>
<td width="66" valign="top">10.04</td>
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		<title>House of Parliament Mention about our House and GreenWin</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[GreenWin is a project that I am working with WinACC with to start a community based hub to support the Green Deal. The goal is to bring together householders, suppliers, skilled trades, and communities to take advantage of the Green Deal on a non-profit basis. This got a mention on Tuesday 10th May by our [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GreenWin is a project that I am working with WinACC with to start a community based hub to support the Green Deal. The goal is to bring together householders, suppliers, skilled trades, and communities to take advantage of the Green Deal on a non-profit basis. This got a mention on Tuesday 10th May by our local MP, Steve Brine,  and hopefully we will get the opportunity to outline the business plan to Department of Energy and Climate Change, and the minister.</p>
<p>The script of Steve&#8217;s speech is <a href="http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2011-05-10a.1053.0&amp;s=speaker%3A24901#g1092.2">here</a>. The overal debate was positive with some level of consensus across all the parties. What we&#8217;re all struggling with is how we&#8217;re going to know if the Green Deal is actually meeting the 2020 targets as the deal is taken up by householders and businesses.</p>
<p>You can see the live debate below (if you have silverlight installed) &#8211; the GreenWin mention starts at time stamp 19:22:25</p>
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